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You do the gods or the gods do you: A conversation with Laurence Hillman

Astrology, archetypes, and how to prepare for the profound changes ahead.

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Laurence Hillman is a professional astrologer, teacher, and consultant. He is the son of James Hillman, founder of archetypal psychology. Laurence holds many degrees, including a PhD in psychology with a focus on Transformative Leadership, an MBA, an MCM (Masters in Construction Management), as well as a degree in Architecture. He is the co-creator of Archetypes at Work™, a new cutting-edge method to assess and develop people and organisations to become fit for the future.

In this conversation, we talk about:

  • Astrology as the study of the quality of time and why this is relevant today;

  • The three different ways of living life and how astrology can help with meaning-making;

  • Why literalism kills us and how archetypal thinking can help;

  • “You do the gods or the gods do you”: how astrology provides insight into problematic behaviour;

  • Astrology and psychotherapy: one hundred years from now, will therapists who don’t use astrology be seen as charlatans?

  • “Bullshit doesn’t survive a Pluto transit”: why Pluto is the most feared energy in our cartesian worldview;

  • How to become future-fit in the Age of Aquarius and through Pluto’s transit through Aquarius: the internet, the ethics of AI, aliens, scientific breakthroughs, psychedelics, and the evolution of consciousness.


Connect with Laurence:

Laurence Hillman’s website

Planets in Play: How to Reimagine Your Life Through the Language of Astrology

Archetypes at Work

Laurence’s Astrology Course at Kosmos Institute

Future Fit in the Age of Aquarius: How to Embody Your Inner Renegade


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